I opened this book without any expectations, so I can’t say I was surprised by its contents; but I am indeed surprised that it is still so well-liked and widely read. The Undiscovered Self is a book mired in a Cold War mentality—fear of communism, totalitarianism, technology, world destruction—so I find it interesting how many people feel that it hasn’t lost any of its relevance. Well, perhaps they’re right; after all, we still have oppressive governments, dangerous mass-movements, and weapons capable of destroying the world. So what is Jung’s message, then?
Jung accepts Freud’s central premise that the mind is separated into the conscious and the unconscious. The conscious is the realm of the rational, the scientific, the social, the cultural; the unconscious is the realm of the irrational, the violent, the spiritual, the religious, the holy. Jung believes that, in the past, when religion was more integral to our society, these two parts of ourselves were in greater harmony; but in modern times there has arisen a split, leading to a sort of general neuroticism. The main problem is that we have attempted to suppress the unconscious completely, emphasizing only the conscious part of our nature; and this is a problem because the unconscious is the source of our individuality.
Look again at the list of things Jung associates with the conscious mind: rationality, science, culture, and so on. These are things that are, by definition, impersonal; they are the same for everyone. Thus the modern view of humankind has lost sight of the individual completely; we only attempt to understand ourselves statistically, as one part of a whole. Even modern religion, in Jung’s opinion, has turned into a mass movement, whereas it should really be a way to connect individual souls with the divine. This overemphasis on the conscious mind has made us suggestible; we are always seeking value and definition from the outside, since we can’t find it within. The result of this is that the few people who have embraced their individuality can easily become leaders, perhaps tyrants, bending the masses to their whims.
Jung’s proposed solution is simple: encourage people to get in touch with their unconscious minds. This can be done through ritual, meditation, or even by seeing a psychologist. Partly this will mean acknowledging and coming to terms with the violent side of our nature. Most of the time, we view violence as something confined to evil people, enemies and criminals. This is a dangerous view, as it fails to force people to realize that the capacity for violence is a part of human nature, and thus lies within everyone. Until we understand this, we will be prone to being stirred up in violent mass-movements, since it is the people who believe they are good and peaceful who are most easily persuaded to do nasty things.
It is interesting to compare Jung’s prescription to Freud’s analysis in Civilization and its Discontents. The picture Freud paints of modern society is generally very similar to Jung’s. Freud also thinks that a source of unhappiness for the modern individual is our repressed unconsciousness. However, Freud thinks that these unconscious desires are so dangerous and illicit that they simply must be suppressed in order to have a functioning society. We just have to accept a certain amount of unhappiness, and try to minimize the occasions when our repressed violent impulses boil over into wars and exterminations. Jung has a less pessimistic view of our unconscious desires; he accepts that they can be violent, but he also sees them as a great source of strength and happiness.
For my part, I think the psychological premise in both of these works is simplistic. I don’t think we can get very far in the analysis of the mind by dividing it up into two chunks, conscious and unconscious; nor do I think that living in a modern society requires such intense repression and self-negation. Further, I can’t agree with Jung that our troubles stem from an overemphasis on reason; rather, I think a lack of rational thinking is more often the problem. And besides, what is this “true self” that we are trying to get in touch with? After reading Montaigne, the writer who best exemplified the chaotic torrent of our conscious experience, I am very skeptical that there is any such being at our core to get in touch with, and that we are, rather, like our thoughts, an ever-changing flux.
Keşfedilmemiş Benlik Gegenwart und Zukunft = The Undiscovered Self, C.G. Jung
These essay, written late in Jung's life, reflect his responses to the shattering experience of World War II and the dawn of mass society. Among his most influential works, The Undiscovered Self is a plea for his generation--and those to come--to continue the individual work of self-discovery and not abandon needed psychological reflection for the easy ephemera of mass culture. Only individual awareness of both the conscious and unconscious aspects of the human psyche, Jung tells us, will allow the great work of human culture to continue and thrive.
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ضمیر پنهان، برابرنهاد نفس؛ یا درون کشف ناشده ی هر انسان است؛ شناخت روان آدمی، و کشف درون هر فرد، در زمره ی پرسشهای مهم روانشناسی در جهان کنونی است؛ «کارل گوستاو یونگ» بزرگترين روانشناس تحليلی سده ی بیستم میلادی، در این اثر، به کاوش و گشودن درِ همین روان، و درون آدمیان، پرداخته اند؛ «یونگ»، نخست «فردیت انسان» را، در جامعه ی مدرن، میشکافند، سپس به «دین»، به عنوان وزنه ی تعادل بخش ذهنیت جمعی بشر، و به جایگاه جهان غرب، در برابر دین، میپردازند، و مسئله ی درک فرد از خویشتن، و دیدگاه فلسفی، و روانشناختی زندگی را، مورد بازشناسی قرار میدهند؛ اکنون که آینده، پیش روی ماست: چقدر از درون نامکشوف خویش آگاهی داریم؟ جهان مدرن چه آینده ای در پیش خواهد داشت؟ ذهن پیچیده و روحیات درونی انسان چه مرزهایی را خواهند گشود؟ و پرسشهای دیگر...؛ نگارنده کتاب به پرسشها به شیوه ای پاسخ میدهند، که انگار، آن پرسش را سر کلاس درس ارائه میکنند
تاریخ بهنگام رسانی 09/04/1400هجری خورشیدی؛ 23/12/1400هجری خورشیدی؛ ا. شربیانی Keşfedilmemiş Benlik I read this book and I gained a greater appreciation of my own nature. Without self-knowledge there can be no growth. The ills of society and the destructive forces that plague us are due to a lack of reflection or willingness to do personal work. To know one's self is the most important part of being human, because with self-knowledge comes compassion and integrity.
As an artist attempting to find her place in a society that is loud and demands that winners vie for a turn in the spotlight, I have often felt at odds with the whole infrastructure of success.
This book opened my eyes to the true cause for agony in our world.
At the time, when I read this book, I felt a little like Humpty Dumpty. I felt like there must be something wrong with me for not wanting to participate or push myself into the spotlight —that I was broken or unable to find the spark necessary for competition based success. I was unable to reconcile what IS with what AUGHT to be. I wondered, why do we so often stray from peaceful and rational serenity? This book made more sense of the whole, explained my dilemma, and informed my vocational purpose in creating art. Keşfedilmemiş Benlik Значи за това бил целият този шум. Велик Юнг! Keşfedilmemiş Benlik Защо не бях посегнал към Юнг досега?
Главно, защото психолозите / психоаналитиците пишат обикновено крайно нечетивно.
И ето, какво изключение!
Още с първите изречения ме спечели. Имаше нещо от сорта зад всеки освидетелстван, стоят поне още 10 с психични разтройства ... :).
Накратко - много изчистено и структурирано, много логично ми звучи всичко. Поток от мисли, който звучи буден, аналитичен, критичен. Задължително ще се чете още от Юнг, както впрочем имам да наваксвам и с плановете си за Фройд. Keşfedilmemiş Benlik
One of the world’s greatest psychiatrists reveals how to embrace our own humanity and resist the pressures of an ever-changing world.
In this challenging and provocative work, Dr. Carl Jung—one of history’s greatest minds—argues that civilization’s future depends on our ability as individuals to resist the collective forces of society. Only by gaining an awareness and understanding of one’s unconscious mind and true, inner nature—“the undiscovered self”—can we as individuals acquire the self-knowledge that is antithetical to ideological fanaticism. But this requires that we face our fear of the duality of the human psyche—the existence of good and the capacity for evil in every individual.
In this seminal book, Jung compellingly argues that only then can we begin to cope with the dangers posed by mass society—“the sum total of individuals”—and resist the potential threats posed by those in power. Keşfedilmemiş Benlik
This book is a lot better before you read it -- the distinguished black cover with its thought-provoking image: the profile of a man's head, in white, with a smaller, multicolored profile inside, superimposed by a black labyrinth. It's all so perfectly 1958! (The year The Undiscovered Self -- a beautiful title! -- was released.) But the book itself is basically an acidulous, slightly paranoid attack on Communism, tinged with a faint apology for Jung's onetime acceptance of the Nazis.
In 1958, Science and Progress were unstoppable, creating a monolithic state. Opening the book at random:
Whereas the man of today can easily think about and understand all the truths dished out to him by the State, his understanding of religion is made considerably more difficult owing to the lack of explanations.
You can thank R.F.C. Hull for that flat-footed translation -- or possibly the problem is the manuscript itself, by the aging Carl Jung. (He died in 1961.) Incidentally, that passage I just quoted was highlighted in blue by the nameless previous owner of my copy (a nice Mentor paperback). That highlighter got started on the very first page, when the book is described, under the headline Prescription for Salvation. She (or he) underlined:
Dr. Jung affirmed that the survival of our civilization might well depend upon closing the widening gulf between the conscious and unconscious aspects of the human psyche.
The problem is that -- as that first, random quotation implied -- the unconscious turns out to basically mean Christianity.
Jung was not much of a prophet. Ten years after this book, the vast and monolithic state began to wither, replaced by niche-marketing, Hippies, libertarian Republicans and Jesus freaks. The Age of Ideology was over, replaced by the Age of Entrepreneurial Snack Bars. No longer was this passage true:
The bigger the crowd the more negligible the individual becomes. But if the individual, overwhelmed by the sense of his own puniness and impotence, should feel that his life has lost its meaning -- which, after all, is not identical with public welfare and higher standards of living -- then he is already on the road to State slavery and, without knowing or wanting it, has become its proselyte.
Farewell, State slavery! Hello, Starbucks!
Keşfedilmemiş Benlik Everyone needs to read this book. In a society over-saturated with media and driven by mass consumerism, it is hard to figure out who you are as an individual. Jung argues that no society can thrive if individuals to not get to know themselves. Not in the conscious I like to read sense but in the unconscious sense. Keşfedilmemiş Benlik . يجب أن لا نُفهم الإنسان على أنه وحدة متكررة. بل هو في الحقيقة شيء فريد ومفرد لا يمكننا في التحليل الأخير أن نعـرّفه ولا أن نشبهه بأي شيء سواه.
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من الصعب ان تقرأ كتاب لـكارل يونج , مع ترجمة سيئة وحرفية ��الية من المعنى الحقيقي لكلمات المؤلف ,,
أغلب الصحفات تجد أنها مجرد كلمات قد رتبت بطريقة صعبة الفهم ,, مجرد ترجمة من اللغة الأصلية الى اللغة العربية بطريقة سريعة وغير عميقة,
ولأن أسلوب كارل يونج معقد وصعب للغاية , حيث يتطرق الى عدة مواضيع في السطر الواحد دون مقدمة أو نهاية لأفكاره الشخصية , شعرت بأنني ضائعة في أغلب الصفحات وكان يجب أن أعيد قرائتها أكثر من مرة لعلي أفهم شيء جديداً..
شعرت بأن الكتاب نوعاً ما غير مناسب للزمن الحالي, لأننا نرى الكاتب مازال ينتقد ويتطرق إلى تصرفات النظام الشيوعي ,وكيف يمكنه التحكم بخيارات الفرد, وتقيد مستقبله وخططه الشخصية ,
وللأسف كان هذا الموضوع يتكرر في كل فصل من كتابه.
ولكن إذا غيرنا كلمة الحزب الشيوعي إلى أحزابنا السياسية الحالية سوف نرى أن الزمن يعيد نفسه مرة اخرى ولكن تحت مسميات جديدة.
والآن لو تجاهلنا الترجمة السيئة , والهوس الشديد في النظام الشيوعي, سوف نجد أن الكتاب يحتوي على الكثير من المعلومات المفيدة والمناسبة للجميع ..
خصوصا تطرقه الى النفس البشرية ,
على الرغم أن الأمثلة التي كان يكتبها موجهة الى المجتمع الغربي الحديث , ولكن الكثير من المشاكل تنطبق علينا نحن ايضاً,
فما زالت المؤسسات الدينية تريد من أتباعها الإنصياع التام بدون نقاش أو تفكير خاص بهم, وتريد منهم أن يكونوا نسخ متشابهه ومكررة لا جديد أو تمييز في أفكارهم او أفعالهم,
وللأسف مازلنا إلى الآن لانفهم أن ميزة الجماعة هي منح الأمان لأفرادها وتنظيم الكتل البشرية وصنع قرار يؤدي إلى تحقيق مطالب الفرد .. ونحن بكل أسف نجهل ذلك إلى الآن , وكل مايمكننا فعله هو الإيمان بقائد أعمى قد لا يكون جديراً بالعمل تحت سلطته أو التضحية لأجله.
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الكتاب فيه الكثير من المعاني المخفية والعميقة , حيث يتحدث عن النفس البشرية وعن ضياع تميزها مع الحشود التي لاتفعل شيئاً سوى الأنصياع للقوة العظمى في دائرتها , ولهذا السبب نرى أن تميز الأنسان يختفي يوماً بعد يوم لما يواجهه من عقبات نفسية ومادية تدمر في داخله كل حب للأكتشاف والتطور . لأننا ببساطة نعيش في مجتمع لايبحث عن قائد جديد ينير ظلمة الطريق, وانما يبحث على تابع أعمى ينفذ كل أمر يوجه إليه دون نقد أو سؤال أو حتى مجرد التفكير في خطوته القادمة.
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إن الانتقاص من قيمة النفس ومقاومة التنوير السيكولوجيّ
قائمان إلى حدٍّ كبيرٍ على الخوف المريع من الاكتشافات التي قد تنجمُ عن التنقيب في أغوارها الخفيّة Keşfedilmemiş Benlik Jordan Peterson introduced me to Jung thru his books and his videos. While walking into work last week i stumbled upon a box of books in the trash and The Undiscovered Self just so happened to be in the mix, so I read it. This was my first Jung book and I honestly wasn’t blown away but I couldn’t put it down. Some of the material is above my pay grade however that which I could grasp I could definitely dig it. I look at it this way, here’s this book lying on its death bed about to be sent into a trash heap to decompose and just as that’s about to occur it gets another shot at doing its job once more, and for that reason this book is special to me, we were meant for each other. I would say this books shelf life has just had a Cinderella ending.
Now I don’t know Jung well enough outside of the fact that Peterson seems to be blown away by him to understand this book that well, it’s a lot of jibber jabber to me, but I think if I was to dedicate more time to reading more of his works and finding out about the man himself I could come to be a fan as well, I see more Jung books in my future.
“It is, unfortunately, only too clear that if the individual is not truly regenerated in spirit, society cannot be either, for society is the sum total of individuals in need of redemption.” Keşfedilmemiş Benlik Jung's thesis in this book is that modern society turns individuals into a social mass where they are categorized by statistical averages that dehumanize people who are, inherently, unique beings who operate by irregularity. Modern society thus turns inevitably into the state with its standardized laws and policies, and is run by rulers that are mouthpieces of the state doctrine, and by a Leader who almost infallibly becomes the victim of his own inflated ego-consciousness. This is how Jung has the constitutional state drifting into the situation of a primitive form of society, namely the communism of a primitive tribe where everybody is subject to the autocratic rule of a chief or an oligarchy. This is interesting political theory.
The modern state suppresses individuality with official doctrine, creeds, and truth and turns people into social units. To correct this situation, Jung sees a vital role for the individual's private relationship with an extramundane authority (as opposed to mass, organized religion) that taps into the inner man. This is the undiscovered self. As to what that might be, Jung calls it an insoluble puzzle that, nevertheless, must be allowed expression via symbols and such that conduce to synthesis (versus a dissociation of personality), allowing the individual to regain control of his or her life. For Jung, the puzzle that must be solved is to adapt instinctive, a priori archetypal forms into ideas which are adequate to the challenges of the present. Psychic health appears to involve some sort of immediate relation to God, a tapping into one's instinctive being, and expression of what lies inside rather than its suppression. Somehow, this leads to self-knowledge and health and, we presume, counters mass society and its oppressive nature.
Jung weaves many separate ideas together in a long, tenuous, stream of consciousness sort of way and it's not particularly clear what we will find when we tap into our unconscious and how that will counter the ills of mass society. Jung is clear that evil is built into our nature so the presumption must be that understanding this side of our nature enables us to control it somehow. He also affirmatively asserts we must love our neighbor. Where love stops, he says, power, violence and terror begin. Jung seems to have faith that when one looks inside, somehow love will find a way to conquer power, violence and terror. Human history suggests, however, that it's also prudent that power be held in reserve if love fails to do its job. That, it is evident, would make Jung uncomfortable.
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